Author Topic: Eye on the Middle East  (Read 2090 times)

September 09, 2015, 12:49:17 PMReply #15

Offline wsimm101

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Re: Eye on the Middle East
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2015, 12:49:17 PM »
Well, the war machines are running at full power worldwide. It is an economic war, and it is rich against poor. Its about control over Land and the resources , and this has always been the cause. We are facing a massive resource depletion and everybody is fearing that they will come off badly. This fear will lead to cruel actions inevitably (we already can see this). Floods of refugees can also be a quite effective weapon. Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
Maybe they read sun tzu, too.

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i just found this: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34102656


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He says he's happy about his life now, but insists that his mistake was not becoming more aware to political realities sooner. All the victims he knew were not radical, neither for ISIS nor pro Assad, and that the lessons he wished he could give his community, and to those in his new American home, would be to, "wake up", have deeper awareness of the realities surrounding you, and take power and accountability locally, from the ground up. He believes that if individual people and individual communities were more self sustaining, aware, and independent, people like he and his family would not be victims caught unaware and weak like lambs to the slaughter.



Definitely regarding this refugee crisis we in the United Kingdom have our full share of responsibility to care for these people. We shouldn't have to, they should be living happily in Syria, but they are not and we are British people are totally going to have to foot the bill for getting involved out there. As far as i understand we have been providing communications and even training and perhaps even logistics, i don't know. To these rebels so we are totally involved in that war. David Cameron has already admitted in the House of Commons that it is going to last a considerable length of time. I am not involved in government but i can imagine our diplomatic agencies and going to be considerably stretched with our responsibility to Libya, that ancient country. Not to mention our responsibility to Iraq and Afghanistan and by virtue our Yemen even! Indian Jones is going to have no temples left to raid by the way! I think we need to get control of our military and stop this fighting without fighting. As in you can't fight fire with fire. I think my best solution to that is what was achieved in Northern Ireland where the perceived terrorists were given a political forum. I think we have to accept that Iraq is owed a lot of money and installing some flat-pack two party 'democracy', styled on our institutional perfection no less, is not solving or going to solve anything. As your friend said Len they need local government, they need laws, people in suits.. so send them there! I don't pay tax for nothing, I don't pay tax to pay for do nothing Fighter Aircraft and top gun style pilots. Hire some damn diplomats and lawyers, give them combat training if you have to!! But spend the bloody money and do what is required of us. The fact is as j373z says the war machine is rolling on and so are the economic giants. It simply is not seen as profitable to invest in Iraq? We in the west need to focus on the North Atlantic Ocean and refining our Nuclear Power generating abilities and beginning to use super conductors as at the Hadron Collider to get almost free energy and access to what ever riches lay at the bottoms of the oceans around us. We need to get control of our food resources as a matter of psychological security so that there is no longer the fear of starvation and obviously, with Carl Sagan's face painted on our space ships, begin to explore the galaxy.
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September 23, 2015, 11:27:42 AMReply #16

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December 22, 2015, 04:35:32 AMReply #17

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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2015, 04:35:32 AM »
That's a really damming post Lance!...i have had creeping feeling that religion does play a part in this, much deeper than the geopolitics. I am scared that it has something to do with ancient religion. It is clear to see how such deep ancient lost wisdom can arouse as much as it can intrigue. I say this because all the wars and conflicts are now situated along the Euphrates river in an era when we should be exploring those ancient sites.
You're quite right wsimm101, but it is not religion (although the physical manifestation bares such a resemblance); it is a force spanning more than mere religion.  In essence, it is a spiritual war that is being fought out here on Earth at this current point in our history - a war that has been raging a very long time.  And as is typical in any war, both sides believe they are right and are doing what they believe is best for the 'masses'.

Well, the war machines are running at full power worldwide. It is an economic war, and it is rich against poor. Its about control over Land and the resources , and this has always been the cause. We are facing a massive resource depletion and everybody is fearing that they will come off badly. This fear will lead to cruel actions inevitably (we already can see this). Floods of refugees can also be a quite effective weapon. Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.

Absolutely.  The global military industrial complex is having a ball.  In certain areas there is massive depletion, but not in all.  And you are quite right when you say:
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...and everybody is fearing...
The fear-mongering has a very strategic and important role to play in the psychological game that is currently afoot.  Of course, the mass media is one of the more major players in this particular scenario.

Although you are right in the following statement -
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Floods of refugees can also be a quite effective weapon. Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
- one has to realise that this, too, is a major part of the fear-mongering being foisted upon the apathetic majority.  Our society has been manipulated to react in a manner that is, to those who believe they are in power, in predictable ways.  This predictability has been reinforced by the global mass media in its constant portrayal of events as though a script has been written that all [so-called] reporters are obliged to follow. 

Fear is a wonderful motivator - no matter how, or in what form, that fear may manifest.  Fear has the amazing ability to offer us opportunities to either raise ourselves to the highest heights we could possibly imagine, or offer us all that we need to become lost in the deepest abyss.  How we each choose to respond to this is entirely an individual thing; but respond, we do.

Mind control, through various projects and operations, is being increasingly directed against humanity - this in the ridiculous guise of "non-lethal weaponry" (weapons that are far from non-lethal).  But even these pale in comparison to the reality of things.  (Perhaps I will continue this line of thought/discussion at another time and in another category.)

Like yourself Len, I, too, have a number of similar stories to the one you shared with us here.  For example, a Sri Lankan diplomat (high government official) who would have had himself and his family terminated had his government found out what he was doing to spread knowledge and enlightenment to the world.  An American 'IT' specialist who, through his connections with the American government, could have easily produced very damning evidence that would have made the US government complicit in a lot of 'crimes against the people'.  Like your friend, I also know Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and others who have escaped the horrors of, not only the middle east, but South East Asian, Asian, ex-Soviet Bloc countries, the US, the UK, and so on who have ended up here in New Zealand believing they are safe.  There are, unfortunately, a number of people whom I have known in the past who were not fortunate to leave the places they were being tormented in, in time to save themselves (including their families).

wsimm101, you conclude with the following:
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We in the west need to focus on the North Atlantic Ocean and refining our Nuclear Power generating abilities and beginning to use super conductors as at the Hadron Collider to get almost free energy and access to what ever riches lay at the bottoms of the oceans around us. We need to get control of our food resources as a matter of psychological security so that there is no longer the fear of starvation and obviously, with Carl Sagan's face painted on our space ships, begin to explore the galaxy.
to which I agree for the most part.

There are better sources of electricity (if that is what we still want to operate with) than that of nuclear generated by unsafe nuclear power plants (what happens to the waste?).  What about the generation of power the same as that which was produced (and still is to a very negligible degree today) from generators such as stone circles, pyramids, leys, etc.  We have a technology called, here in New Zealand, psionics (in the US they call it psychotronics).  This technology has the potential to literally send us to the stars and beyond.  Tesla gave us, once again, the means to generate unlimited electrical energy for mere pennies.  Not only that, but many of his other 'ideas' were pretty phenomenal as well.  For transportation, there is enough evidence to support the fact that many men and women around the world have invented water-based engines that could easily power our cars, trucks and trains.  To say that we are running out of 'clean' water is balderdash.  We have the technological know-how to clean most polluted water.  We have so many different ways of producing food, that the peoples of Earth, even now, could be fed with utter ease - and with plenty left over!

We are living in amazing times.  There is so much we can do to make our lives, and the lives of all those around us, so much better.  Not only that, we have the ability (each and every one of us) to make this world a truly amazing paradise should we wish to do so.  For sure, we can concentrate on the negative, and perhaps that is why the opportunities to do so are so prevalent, but we can also lend our concentration towards the positive (whatever that may be) and more readily work towards positive things.


February 28, 2016, 05:53:52 AMReply #18

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2016, 05:53:52 AM »
A picture is worth a thousand words




Week twenty of the Russian military intervention in Syria: a ceasefire and yet another huge victory for Russia

http://thesaker.is/week-twenty-of-the-russian-military-intervention-in-syria-a-ceasefire-and-yet-another-huge-victory-for-russia/



A warrior is a man responding gleefully to the stern demands of manhood, even as a mother is a woman lovingly responding to the demands of motherhood. The two are akin, for what motherhood is to a woman war is to a man.

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March 04, 2016, 08:37:35 PMReply #19

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2016, 08:37:35 PM »
It is all about OIL.
Peak Oil is real. We are living it. Both sides have been and are being funded by the same group. Not the banks, not the governments but by the few families that own the banks, corporations, governments. The current troubles have been recognized in the 1940's. That is when it was predicted that north america would reach peak oil production in the 1970's. That was played out as "the rise of OPEC", what a joke. Global peak oil was predicted then. And the aftermath.... welcome to my world.
The carrying capacity of an ecosystem or biosphere is based on balance. Energy in and energy out. It is the law. We will be living on a one or two billion person planet in the future. The longer it takes the less infrastructure will remain. And the families probably would not like that. So welcome to war, the expensive way to kill, and famine a little cheaper. And GMO's and industrial food and medicine... the most efficient method known. It is all written in black and white. Check out the history of the CFR, Agenda 21, who started and built the UN. Who owns the global media... all of it. The solutions are in the mirror and in the house next door.
Tim Hallen