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January 14, 2013, 07:27:54 PMReply #30

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2013, 07:27:54 PM »
Atheistic Buddhism as compared to the Theistic writings of the Kolbrin, while differing theologically on certain key elements, offer equally real and valid paths to Transcendence. One path is generally better suited for the Easterner, while the other is typically better suited for the Westerner. The vast bulk of Western mysticism has long been suppressed and been underground, and in the past century those in the power elite have actively assisted in filling the void of the Western soul with a culturally unsuitable Eastern mysticism, while simultaneously foisting an unsuitable Western culture on Eastern peoples.

On a spiritual level, the Eastern path is 'passive' while the Western path is 'active', and each leading the practicing aspirant to different spheres of existence. The realm of non-duality is beyond each of these realms, and this Earth, which makes the question of ultimate creation almost a moot one at this phase. However, a passive path for an active soul prolongs reincarnational requirements, while increasing suffering and confusion, as previously discussed. And again, the purpose for this is not accidental.

The above concepts are HIGHLY abbreviated for time and space considerations. However, they should be deeply contemplated by those to whom it may be a concern.

And Manuel, you need not worry about the problem of eternal consciousness at present, as this issue cannot solve itself until other temporal lessons are learned...or unless you numb yourself into a backwards regression, which is common enough choice these days.

January 14, 2013, 07:30:21 PMReply #31

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2013, 07:30:21 PM »
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WRONG again. Buddhism does not teach Atheism!
Buddhism teach that there is no such a thing as an omnipotent, benevolent entity. There are many gods and most of them are even unenlightened.

Worshiping these gods will get you nowhere. One should attain the salvific knowledges (sanskr. "jnana", "boddhi") instead to attain salvation (either liberation or rebirth in the higher realms / heaven).

Even your Bible does NOT say about a One God. It says about gods (!). The word elohim / allah is NOT a name nor a singular noun as your lying theistic leaders have told you. It is a PLURAL NOUN (!!!).

Sacrificing your kids (oblations / holocaust) to the gods is IMMORAL.

Active?? Active in what?? no single christian ("the counterfeit ones") can walk on water.

January 14, 2013, 07:30:58 PMReply #32

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2013, 07:30:58 PM »
Please calm yourself. It is atheistic in regards to ultimate reality, and how you are defining creation. But these theological quibbles matter little from the perspective of this sphere and the next.

January 14, 2013, 07:32:47 PMReply #33

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2013, 07:32:47 PM »
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The only thing that rules this world is the natural laws: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. It is a horrible thing, yet the blind ones call it "grace" or even "Divine Providence".

All existence, even concepts such religions evolved according to this same rule/scheme: Survival of the Fittest where beings kill/harm one another. It is not goodness / grace / benevolence. It is wickedness / tragedy / horror.

There is NO such a thing as this omnipotent, benevolent entity who can protect / save you from anything. Only you can save yourself. It's that simple.

Yet, driven by madness/delusions/ignorance (sanskr. Avidya, koine: Agnoia), they keep hallucinating about such a thing that they even had to falsify their own scriptures to maintain such insane delusions.

 the prophets & serial killers are the same: they follow the instructions given by invisible spirits (they call "God"). If only one would learn about the history of humanity & theisms.

"They were served by evil powers".
- The "heretical" Gospel of Philip.

January 14, 2013, 07:33:15 PMReply #34

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2013, 07:33:15 PM »
Why do you think your soul chose to incarnate into this "horror", as you yourself choose to kill in order to survive?

January 14, 2013, 07:33:54 PMReply #35

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2013, 07:33:54 PM »
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okay... I understand what you are saying, and I completely disagree. "There is NO such a thing as this omnipotent, benevolent entity who can protect / save you from anything." What is it that you need to be saved from? this life? The Supreme Spirit has given this life to you for a reason. What you choose to do with it, is yours. And yes, he is omnipotent and ever present.

January 14, 2013, 07:35:53 PMReply #36

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2013, 07:35:53 PM »
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we can't tell for sure. some beings choose to incarnate to enlighten others, yet some are born due to the inherent ignorant sparks of consciousness (theists call "soul"). yet if you would, you can obtain such knowledge (about the causes of why you chose to re-incarnate) after attaining the knowledges. but it won't be an easy one.

if your gods were omnipotent & good, then why should there be such a thing as hell? and, again, who created it?

If Creation were good, why need SALVATION in the first place??

January 14, 2013, 07:36:26 PMReply #37

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2013, 07:36:26 PM »
If you can't tell me why YOU have chosen to incarnate here, I'd say that damning all existence is just a tad premature.

January 14, 2013, 07:38:01 PMReply #38

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2013, 07:38:01 PM »
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And who created your "God"? What was he doing before he created this Universe? And for what purpose did this god create you then?

You evolve from a subhuman species. If your God created you according to his image, then you are worshiping a neanderthal / ape god.

January 14, 2013, 07:38:36 PMReply #39

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2013, 07:38:36 PM »
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bad agrument

January 14, 2013, 07:45:08 PMReply #40

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2013, 07:45:08 PM »
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Guys, I'm not forcing you to believe in these "heretical" gnostic gospels. I was just trying to explain the points with reference to science, logic & buddhistic scriptures.

January 14, 2013, 07:46:32 PMReply #41

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2013, 07:46:32 PM »
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I like the gnostic texts as far as they go when improving on the human experience... but their cosmology is like putting a square peg in a round hole and is based on ignorance and misunderstanding.

January 14, 2013, 07:47:27 PMReply #42

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2013, 07:47:27 PM »
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i'm not going to explain any further. it's a matter of CHOICE whether you choose to believe in whatever things (facts or lies / hallucination) you want to believe.

January 14, 2013, 07:48:14 PMReply #43

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2013, 07:48:14 PM »
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do not try to disprove GOD based on simple concepts of what HE is. I think we all would agree HE isn't those.

January 14, 2013, 07:49:52 PMReply #44

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Re: A Gnostic/Buddhist Goal of Existence
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2013, 07:49:52 PM »
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... WE can not 'understand' infinity ... BUT, WE can FeeL IT = sensations, withOUT judgMEnt !! -))

... non judgment, is 'fEElINg' the AS IT IS, and withIN ...
(=the K-IN-G-DO-M of Hea-veN), the experiential understanding "EVERYTHING" is made of INFINITE LOVE/LIGHT/CALM-PASSION !! -)) ... please, do not BElieVE me, sit and 'fEEl IT' ! -))))))))