Started by Len, January 14, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: Enkisfreind on June 24, 2013, 05:56:10 AMI was just reading these posts, and remembered that years ago, I was having a conversation with Rabbi Avraham Feld and my friend Yair Davidy, about the Christians and lost Israelites. Rabbi Feld pointed out that the scripture in the book of Revelations, saying that Jesus was the bright morning star, was a reference to HaSatan, and that the Christians worshipped HaSatan, without realising it.Interesting ?
Quote from: Diane_ on June 25, 2013, 07:48:10 PMSo the Jewish priests had a wonderful knowledge, yet so did the people who belonged to the "other side"-call it the Jesus side if that fits. Neither is totally wrong, or totally evil. They're both from the same mold. They battled with their wits and beliefs, call each other names, made up bad stories about the other side, but they were really from the same mold to begin with. Not sure if you can follow that train of thought. I try very hard to get to the original knowledge without all the back and forth over who is right and who is wrong, who is on the side of evil and who is not.
Quote from: Diane_ on June 25, 2013, 07:48:10 PMThe wizards can battle all they want.
Quote from: Enkisfreind on June 28, 2013, 06:01:47 AMWow Len, what a post !
Quote from: Enkisfreind on June 28, 2013, 06:01:47 AMIt was then he explained to us, he being an Orthodox Hassidic settler style Rabbi, in a Yeshiva in Judea, how it was that Y'shua (Jesus), had been a student of Hallel !
Quote from: Enkisfreind on June 28, 2013, 06:01:47 AMThe main issue with Jesus, for me also, is the human sacrifice for sin aspect, that, to Judaism, is totally pagan, and an unacceptable Christian doctrine.
QuoteDuring their rites, the Druids located a tree in the shape of a cross, or lopped off the branches of a specifically chosen oak to make a cruciform. Upon this tree the name Hesus was usually inscribed. The party of Druids present at the ceremony of Iesa would face Eastward toward the rising of the sun and sing hymns and chant to the newborn Son of the Sun. The very word east derives from his name. It was only later that certain groups assimilated the custom and made a travesty of it that a physical man appeared to hang in pain from a tree... The T-shaped tree represented the Tinne and Tau letter of the sacred alphabets, and connoted death and rebirth. The letter â€œTâ€ served the same meaning as Greek Omega. Christ, who is associated with this letter, is based on Iesa who was in previous ages associated with the Tau, the hierogram of which was the tree or cross. Jesus is still referred to as Essa in the Koran and was known by that name to both the Arabs and the Copts (Egyptian Christians). In Northern India Iesa is remembered as Issa or Essa. From this word we derive â€œessence,â€ â€œEsseneâ€ and â€œesoteric.â€ Other versions of the name are Yesu, Hesu, Esus and Aesar meaning â€œHe who creates (or brings) the fire.â€ The Celtic Heus or Esus was a mysterious god of Gaul.
QuoteEsa or Iesa was the third deity of the Druidic Trinity of Bel, Taranis and Esa. His name meant â€œThe Raised One.â€ His element was wind. This was picked up by Gnostics and Christians and transformed into the â€œRuach,â€ â€œPneuma,â€ and finally the â€œHoly Spirit.â€ Esa was commonly shown hovering in the sky or cutting from a tree in the guise of a carpenter. Suggestively, he was often depicted hanging from a great tree while being stabbed to death. According to Druidic tradition Esusâ€™ life-blood healed the earth. It purified and revivified the land allowing for a new seasonâ€™s abundance. The Druids understood the land to be literally born again from the blood of the sacrificed Esus. Michael Tsarion The Irish Origins of Civilization