Started by Len, April 03, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Tait ZinszerSo, this was cool! As you posted this last night, I was reading: Stobaeus ~ An extract from the discourses of Hermes to his son Tat. It reads as follows: "But as to Void, which most people think to be a thing of great importance, I hold that no such thing as Void exists, or can have existed in the past, or ever will exist. For all several parts of the cosmos are wholly filled with various qualities and forms, each having its own shape and magnitude; and thus the cosmos as a whole is full and complete. Of these bodies, some are larger, some are smaller; and they differ in greater or lesser firmness of their substance. Those of them which are of firmer substance are more easily seen, as are also those which are larger; whereas small bodies, and those which are of less firm substance, are almost or quite invisible, and it is only by the sense of touch we are made aware of their existence. Hence many people have come to think that these bodies do not exist and that there are void spaces; but that is impossible. And the like holds good of what is called â€˜the extramundane,â€™ if indeed any such thing exists; for I hold that not even the region outside the cosmos is void, seeing that it is filled with things apprehensible by thought alone, that is, with things of like nature with its own divine being. And so our cosmos also, the sensible universe as it is called, is wholly filled with bodies, and living bodies, suited to its character. The shapes presented by these bodies to our sight differ in magnitude; some of these shapes a very large; others a very small, when the distance of the objects makes them appear small to us; and some things, on account of their extreme minuteness or tenuity, are wholly invisible to us, and are consequently supposed by many people to be nonexistent.And so, you must not call anything void without saying what the thing in question is void of, as when you say that a thing is void of fire or the like. For it is possible for a thing to be void of such things as these, and it may consequently come to seem void; but the thing that seems void, however small it be, cannot possibly be empty of spirit/wind and of air." (Stobaeus) Hermes Trismegistus
Quote from: ManuGreat quote, Lucious is a fantastic Kolbrin book. I am inclined to think that we're inside some sort of mental environment and existence in matter is basically just a very persistent dream. Thus why you find matter is basically empty at it most basic levels. Beyond the apparently solid dream there's only mind devoid of matter. This dream is being upheld by the power of this mind which apparently has some vested interests in it.That's why Lucius says you won't ever find God regardless of how far you travel in the sphere of Matter. Probably our cosmos is also spherical somehow and if you kept going you'd be back at the point of start. You will never find the source there because this is just a mental creation which lies outside of it. All this universe we perceive is being projected from somewhere else as a mental fabrication of some infinitely powerful mind devoid of physical body. A mind which exists beyond matter. Maybe it's being projected from a black hole?If you had enough mental power to dream a coherent dream, one which was persistant and not random and chaotic, and you created some individual in that dream (I've dreamt with people who I had never seen in my life and who seemed to have their own unique personalities for instance), how could that individual find you (the creator)?The individual you created in your dream wouldn't be looking for your body, because your body is not dreaming him/her, he/she would be looking for your mind. But then he/she would already be in your mind, just in another compartiment of it which felt like a separate, solid world(just like dreams may feel like sometimes). When it comes to our minds, not to our brains mind you(no pun intended ), there's no clear delimitations like in the physical world we perceive. I don't think I'd even know how to explain the way capacities are distributed within our minds. The idea of spatial/temporal limits begins to lose all sense when we speak about mental existence.
Quote from: ManuThe mission in this realm seems to be to search for the faculty of perceiving truth and reality. The trick is that it's very hard to be so inclined when the physical reality constantly presents so many sensorial distractions.Well physical reality or maybe illusion of a physical reality would be more apt?
Quote from: ManuThis conversation reminded me to this. Here you go, check it out when you can
Quote from: ManuThat particular dream theater album was very esoteric. Afterwards they strayed from that kind of brilliance.
Quote from: ManuThis one from that same album is like one of my most influential pieces of music in my life, both musically and lyrically.
Quote from: timhallen3730 on July 23, 2014, 10:47:40 PMForgive me. I mean to disrespect.
Quote from: timhallen3730 on July 29, 2014, 12:04:48 PMLimits are in perception. Cause and effect are bounded by what is known.
Quote from: timhallen3730 on July 29, 2014, 12:04:48 PMI pray for the right questions and for now.... the priceless gift of being incarnate in this place and time.