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September 15, 2014, 03:05:23 PM

Offline Len

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Snowden: NSA collects mass data on New Zealanders
« on: September 15, 2014, 03:05:23 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/snowden-nsa-collects-mass-data-zealanders-101324914.html

I know there are a lot of Kiwi's here, as the Culdian Trust itself is based out of New Zealand. So, I thought I might share this new bit of NSA spying news. What's shocking about this, if true, is that high placed members of the New Zealand government would lie to their citizens, spy on them, and release that information secretly to other potential governments and/or corporations and/or elite individuals. One could almost consider that a treasonous act, no?

(Not that what the American government does to its own people is any better, mind you...)

One should also look at the timing Dotcom, Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange are using to disseminate this information, right before an election. These are clearly not just purveyors of truth and information, they are activists working for themselves and others, as some of this information was sat on until an opportune political moment.

April 03, 2015, 04:39:48 AMReply #1

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Re: Snowden: NSA collects mass data on New Zealanders
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2015, 04:39:48 AM »
Um, sorry to burst any bubbles here, but this sort of thing has been happening for decades here in New Zealand (as in the rest of the world). 

The fact that the current government here has been caught red-handed lying to our people on numerous occasions is, it would seem, of little importance to New Zealanders as a whole.  As long as we are not directly affected (by this I mean the usual financial side of things) then we are not that concerned about how the country is operated.  Sound familiar?  It should do.  This mindset is prevalent worldwide.

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One should also look at the timing Dotcom, Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange are using to disseminate this information, right before an election. These are clearly not just purveyors of truth and information, they are activists working for themselves and others, as some of this information was sat on until an opportune political moment.

Like all strategies, particularly if there is any hope of them being successful, the timing of information to be released can be very critical.  However, for it to be effective, it needs willing recipients.  For sure, there was a bit of a media stir over these revelations (our media ensured there was only a 'bit' of a stir), but nothing too excessive.

As for these purveyors of truth and information being activists working for themselves and others, well, this may indeed be the case with some of them, but I cannot believe this to be true for them all.  I have noticed that there are those who actually label such people as traitors, extremists and terrorists, etc.  Could this indeed be the case?  I suppose it is all a matter of perspective.

July 23, 2018, 08:10:48 AMReply #2

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Re: Snowden: NSA collects mass data on New Zealanders
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 08:10:48 AM »
What do you guys think of the statement I've heard a few times that stuff like this is basically an act of war?

July 23, 2018, 08:29:55 PMReply #3

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Re: Snowden: NSA collects mass data on New Zealanders
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 08:29:55 PM »
In many countries now the term “act(s) of terrorism” is being flaunted. In the so-called west this is now the favoured term used by the proponents of the globalist hegemony to label those men, women and children who are actively against the hegemonic agenda.

For those countries with a disgruntled or even passing understanding or knowledge of the nwo and its machinations they would indeed class this whole concept as an act of war - particularly so if carried out by elected (or other) officials. These people can be seen (if permitted) to being riotous, anti establishment and so on, and are frequently branded, at best, as terrorists of the state.