Author Topic: "Guide to the Kolbrin" by Yvonne Whiteman  (Read 12156 times)

October 27, 2015, 03:11:18 AMReply #15

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Re: "Guide to the Kolbrin" by Yvonne Whiteman
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2015, 03:11:18 AM »
Graham Hancock asked me to put in a few pics because he thinks visuals make these articles more appealing. He uses his wife's photos to illustrate his work. I wish I could do something similar since, if I could use all my own photos, people would not suppose that the picture source websites form part of the argument.

It looks to me as if the photo of Professor Vekua is part of an honestly-meant travel piece. Nevertheless, this area of enquiry is stuffed with flaky, daffy and over-pedantic stuff, as you all know, and researching the Kolbrin involves wading through much mud and madness in order to have the occasional eureka moment.

There exists a post-modern belief that human beings have discovered everything there is to discover, and what we do now is merely to rework earlier thoughts - unless, of course, we are worshipping the great modern gods Science and Darwin. I detect an unconscious level of this everywhere, but will plough on none the less.

October 27, 2015, 06:19:22 AMReply #16

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2015, 06:19:22 AM »
Regarding Lolo Morganwg, what I've found is that Alan Wilson's research has proven that the Coelbren alphabet was not a fabrication of Lolo, but was actually used in ancient times and Wilson and his colleagues have actually translated ancient texts that were written in Coelbren(in fact Coelbren seems to have been found also in America). So I reckon maybe more of the allegations against Lolo are possibly defamatory as well, perhaps in part due to an agenda to bury certain aspects of ancient British history.

October 28, 2015, 04:42:12 AMReply #17

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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2015, 04:42:12 AM »
Thanks for the explanation of what I have tried to do in my article - you're bang on.


October 30, 2015, 05:17:42 AMReply #18

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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 05:17:42 AM »
Iolo Morganwg died in 1826 at the age of 79, so it would have been almost impossible for him to concoct a full biography of Akhenaten (book of Manuscripts) before he died. Only preliminary details of Amarna, Akhnaten’s capital city, were mapped by Napoleon's corps de savants in their Description de l'Égypte which was published between 1821 and 1830, and Akhenaten’s tomb was not discovered until the 1890s.

George Smith discovered the cuneiform tablet of Gilgamesh (Hurmanetar story in the book of Gleanings) in 1872, so Morganwg couldn’t have got his hands on this either.

Details of Hapu (book of Manuscripts) were published with the discovery of his tomb in 1906. I could go on...

I suspect Iolo Morganwg’s name has been connected with the Kolbrin because (1) a chapter entitled ‘Gorsedd’ appears in the Britain Book; (2) ‘Kolbrin’ is a variant spelling of ‘Coelbren’, which Morganwyg claimed to have revived; (3) Morganwg has been accused of inventing the Coelbren language.

Morganwg was certainly capable of forging Druid triads, the poetic style that make up the Gorsedd chapter; however, the historians Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett are adamant that the Coelbren alphabet is authentic and that Morganwg didn’t invent it. They have this to say:

AUTHENTICITY OF THE WELSH COELBREN ALPHABET

For over 200 years now the Coelbren alphabet has been ridiculed, scoffed at and targeted as an outright forgery.

Historically speaking, there seems to be deep-rooted animosity attributed to this language which is well beyond my scope of research here. Thus I will leave for others to debate as to the reasons why. That being said, two British History researchers Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett have broken new ground and declared the Coelbren Alphabet to be authentic.

“The ciphers of the [ancient Coelbren] Alphabet were preserved by Llewellyn Sion of Glamorgan around AD 1540 - 1560. Therefore it is known which cipher means which modern letter of our present Alphabet...The Elucidator [see image to the right] is a frame made of sticks, some three sided, others squared, on the flat surface of which were carved the Bardic aphorisms. Three sided ones contained a complete triad.”
Wilson and Blackett go on to say:

[This] “Alphabet is identically described, and matching British records, in the Nag Hamadi documents of the Gnostic church that were buried before AD 400 and discovered in 1945. Large numbers of [Welsh] mediaeval poets mentioned and described the ancient British Alphabet, starting with Daffydd ap Gwilym died AD 1367 and going onto around AD 1475.

Rhys Goch of Oswestry wrote a poem lampooning this Coelbren Alphabet in AD 1582. Therefore allegations that this ancient British Alphabet is a fake that was forged around AD 1800 are ludicrous.”

The Coelbren Alphabet lies scattered all along our ancient ancestral migration trails. A 30-foot (10metres) long shroud was found wrapped around a mummy in Egypt and this Zagreb shroud in plastered with Coelbren. The two Copper Scrolls found at Qumran are inscribed in Coelbren. The Ten Tribes of Israel were known to the Assyrian Emperors as the Khumry around 740-700 BC. They had the Ark with them after King Jehoash removed it from Jerusalem in circa 790 BC.

There are readable Coelbren inscriptions scattered through Turkey marking the route of our ancestors from western Armenia from 687 BC to c 650 BC. The Greeks called these Khumry as the “Kimmeroi”. A major Coelbren inscribed stone was found on the island of Lemnos in1876 which describes the fleets gathering there to sail to the great green island out in the western Ocean -Britain in the Atlantic – exactly as our Histories state. In short we can now read these “indecipherable” texts all along our Historical ancestral migration trail.

The Coelbren Alphabet is the Alphabet described by Julius Caesar around 55 BC. It exists on many ancient stones in Britain, notably the stone of King Gorddwfyn the Exile of around AD 200, and others in Wales,England and Scotland. Dafydd ap Gwilym (died AD 1367) mention it,as did six other known bards between AD 1420 to 1480. A north Wales Bard-Rhys Goch of Oswestry- wrote a whole poem lampooning this South Wales preserved Alphabet in1582. The fact is that there are some 14,000 Etruscan inscriptions in Italy and a handful in ancient Rhaetia (Switzerland), and everyone attempted so far reads out correctly using the Coelbren Alphabet and the Khumric Language.


Admin Edit: The source for the quote above may be found here: https://www.facebook.com/AlanWilsonandBaramBlackett/posts/372252282903127:0

Here are a few pics used by Wilson/Blackett to illustrate their argument:









Whether you agree with Wilson/Blackett's version of ancient history or not, it's difficult to argue with their findings.
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October 30, 2015, 10:43:47 AMReply #19

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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2015, 10:43:47 AM »
I attach a link to an article about the finding of an over-sized skull and rib-cage - both of which are apparently on show to the public - since my pic of Professor Vekua doesn't seem to have done the trick.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2063486/Alien-skull-Peru-Mystery-giant-headed-mummy-city-Andahuaylillas.html

October 30, 2015, 03:55:36 PMReply #20

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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2015, 03:55:36 PM »
Yvonne, I have edited your post on Iolo Morganwg and the Coelbren Alphabet to include the source web link for the quote you shared.

The subject of the Coelbren Alphabet is a large one, and deserves its own dedicated discussion thread, which is why I have taken yours and Manu's posts on the topic and placed them here: http://culdiantrust.org/culdianforums/index.php?topic=299.0

Further discussion on the Coelbren Alphabet in its relation to the Kolbrin or Iolo Morganwg should be replied to there, unless it is directly pertinent to Yvonne's article.