Author Topic: A Debate on Miscegenation (Race Vs. Spirit)  (Read 7622 times)

April 04, 2013, 05:20:06 AMReply #30

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Re: A Debate on Miscegenation (Race Vs. Spirit)
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2013, 05:20:06 AM »
Right... and, the Lesson of that story is something all of us can use today. But there is nothing but fatalism in dwelling over my own mixed blood, which I can do nothing about. Again, a high culture was possible after the fall... and another kind of fall, another kind of miscegenation occurred... which all of us can do something about.

April 04, 2013, 05:20:34 AMReply #31

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Re: A Debate on Miscegenation (Race Vs. Spirit)
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2013, 05:20:34 AM »
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Well we all are mixed somewhat nowadays so indeed it is useless. Still I don't agree with your interpretation of the other passages we discussed.

April 04, 2013, 05:20:51 AMReply #32

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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2013, 05:20:51 AM »
Just the passage on aspiring to Godhood while mating with another with pure blood. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

April 04, 2013, 05:21:14 AMReply #33

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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2013, 05:21:14 AM »
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Well yeah that's a whole other topic and it has some interesting implications.

April 04, 2013, 05:21:33 AMReply #34

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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2013, 05:21:33 AM »
Start a new thread on it... use the quote you already used with any other similar passages.

April 04, 2013, 05:21:54 AMReply #35

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« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2013, 05:21:54 AM »
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Nah I rather not, as it's not a very agreeable topic. And anyway as we established it's something that serves no purpose anymore.

April 04, 2013, 05:22:21 AMReply #36

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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2013, 05:22:21 AM »
Who ever said the topics the Kolbrin raises were 'agreeable' to most people anyway...  ;)

April 04, 2013, 05:23:03 AMReply #37

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« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2013, 05:23:03 AM »
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Well this particular one could make people upset. Anyway this an interesting link if you wish to further learn about these things. Mainstream too btw.

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/340290/description/DNA_tracks_ancient_Mediterranean_farmers_to_Scandinavia

April 04, 2013, 05:24:05 AMReply #38

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« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2013, 05:24:05 AM »
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The Anunnaki had blue eyes.

Why would that article upset people Mr Cufre' ?

April 04, 2013, 05:24:41 AMReply #39

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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2013, 05:24:41 AM »
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Guess I'm stuck on Neanderthals yet for today...but good examples here.

It's possible that some Neanderthals had blue eyes, brown eyes, dark skin, light skin, red hair, etc. If defining a "race" is truly skin color, then maybe we might have the problem confusing the meaning of the word "race" used in the ancient writings. I would think it was meant to a certain group or community. Not black, white, blue eyes whatever.

You find something good, you stick with it, (the community group), but every now and then one is born from this group that is different. Not different by skin color or hair. But different because they have an "indifference" for the feelings of others, they're selfish, they're don't react the same way, they want to control, they are the hurtful predator type person. They steal the food, take what's not theirs etc.

Is it in the blood, the genes? Have you met people like this in your own life? Some are true psychopaths. They make believe that they have feelings. Judge the tree by it's fruit. Bad or good. Don't think this meant it's only good for you if it's purple.

Luke 17-[34] I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. [35] Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left."

Matthew 24-40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.

Think of the parables about separating sheep from goats, wheat from chaff, (weeds).

"The female Neandertal known as Vi33.26, for example, had seven genes for brown eyes, one for "not-brown" eyes, three for blue eyes, and four for "not-blue eyes." By the researchers' reckoning, that means a six-gene balance in favor of brown and a negative balance for blue, so Vi33.26's eyes were probably brown. According to this method, all three Neandertals had a dark complexion and brown eyes, and although one was red-haired, two sported brown locks."

"Study author Tábita Hünemeier of Brazil's Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul says she's not surprised by the results. "There was a large population of Neandertals in Europe," she says. "It's impossible that an entire population has red hair or blue eyes."

"Carles Lalueza-Fox of Spain's Institute of Evolutionary Biology in Barcelona. In 2007, he authored a paper showing that two Neandertals, one from Italy and one from Spain, carried a genetic variation likely to bestow pale skin and red hair. He argues that some pigmentation genes have such a powerful effect that they override the combined contributions of many weaker genes—a phenomenon that would render the new study's simple gene addition inaccurate. The lighter skin color seen in Europeans, for instance, is due almost entirely to a single gene, he says. "We know that there are some genes that have a very strong effect" on physical appearance, he says."

Just saying...I really don't think it has anything to do with color/race that way. Observe the people in your own real life, not talking facebook here. I don't think it has anything to do with believing in one God or another, or none for that matter. Does the person sincerely care about others? Or do they only ever care about themselves, and pretend to care care about others? maybe a a clue?  ;)

April 04, 2013, 05:25:04 AMReply #40

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« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2013, 05:25:04 AM »
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Sha'ul Suhr Not the article, the topic Len was asking me about.

January 05, 2015, 02:45:31 AMReply #41

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Re: A Debate on Miscegenation (Race Vs. Spirit)
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2015, 02:45:31 AM »
I have sympathy with both of your arguments.
I understand how that after all the terrible cataclysims, exiles, scatterings and wars, that the ancient races are somewhat of a mishmash now days.
Still, I cant help wondering about different races and their destinies. Like the Jews, just for example, and the lost tribes of Israel so called. They are bound together in destiny, eventually to re unite.
I actually believe this will happen one day. As much of the prophesy concerning this has come to pass in a very real way.
So, I'm of two minds.
Interesting topic, that's for sure.